To make it a shorter list, Beyonder's presence threatens the whole of the Marvel multiverse, and he sweeps aside the Living Tribunal, Galactus, Doom; everything in it basically. Michael doesn't really have a lot in the way of feats, other than statements by other characters and some. She easily could hold an infinite-D multiverse in her hand, while Beyonder's best feat was to shake an infinite-D. Marvel - Living Tribunal, PR- MM and Beyonder, HoTU MAYBE DC-Fully Powered Spectre, CA Superman, Mandrakk, Nix Uotan Marvel- Multi-Eternity? I don't know a lot about Marvel cosmics. 5 years ago. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. There are some moments where Beyonder was oddly weak during Secret Wars 2, but his consistent portrayal was ridiculous. That scales on the top dogs of each omniverse. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder and Thanos with the Regulator both duo together to obliterate all of the other nigh-omnipotent beings in this thread. Even The. Win by death, KO, incap PR beyonder's own assession puts him millions of times stronger than the multiverse. That would make LT like a germ/bug in comparison to PR-Beyonder. COIE fully powered anti monitor was the entire DC multiverse, his reality warping and. IMO Lucifer convinces the Beyonder to kill himself. Weakest character that would beat him for a majority is PR Beyonder. " @Pr_Beyonder said: " @Morpheus_ said: "Michael already defeated the Spectre, in the Spectre's own series, no less. LT, Multi-Eternity, Death, Galactus etc. Battle takes place in an infinite omniverse. 7. Yeah PR Beyonder is completely broken Reply [deleted] • Additional comment actions. Now picture a third Brother that is so big, the Amalgam Brothers are 2 drops of water next to the ocean. PR Molecule Man. 3rd. There's a few tossups though, I think the Bleach verse has the speed and skill to pull out a win here or there. His. pr beyonder was to kill death and all the abstracts (eternity,watcher,LT,galactus,mephisto,celestials) begged him but he killed death anyway. Follow 26437. Lucifer is also technically the most intelligent being in DC besides God. PR Beyonder is OP, he was originally written to be THE top entity in Marvel, there's no real beating him. First Firmament (Maybe biased)ALTERNATE VERSION: THE AFTERMATH OF SUPERMAN PRIME vs MONARCH: After defeating Monarch & the demise of Universe 51, Superman Prime senses that hisPR Beyonder should have no problem soloing, even if everyone else was in the other team. @claymore1998: Not once was PR Beyonder stated to be second only to TOAA. They above everyone on the list Gold Experiance Requiem cant touch nigh beings or omni beings so its useless. Oh, and Doom has a gun. The Ivory Kings are still not at PRB's level, and shouldn't be regarded as his equals, let alone his superiors. Followers. Forum Posts. So, yeah, no worries there. Forum Posts. And boy, DC is supremely addicted to crises. Forum Posts. Beyonder has curb-stomped Celestials and even killed Death, a thing that was so irreversible that not even the most powerful of beings could fix it, besides himself. @laflux said: MOM. Friend showed me a comic on this guy about a year ago,told me it was a very popular fan- fic,I was orginally going to make this my first thread but IPre Retcon Beyonder. 0. Mxyzptlk. Dr Manhattan isn't a match for Galactus, and Galactus is a mere insect to the Beyonder. This is the battle of the greatest Feat :)483K subscribers in the whowouldwin community. " @Pr_Beyonder said: " @Decoy Elite: Hey,Disco suits were B. 13 years. Nothing more needs to be said. PR Beyonder. Marth Kent rolls up a newspaper and hits him makes him do. ShootingNova. The Beyonder is strong, but not exactly the strongest. PR Beyonder's power was likened to an ocean while the Marvel Universe was said to be a drop of water in comparison. Living Tribunal was also onlu second to TOAA much like Michael and Lucifer are second only to Presence. And with this analogy, Alovenus/Ruphas can create L1A character A in fiction A, But can easily defeated By character B In fiction B. at the time "Don't make me post a pic of you in that one armor. PR Beyonder is on par with TOAA but people tend to put him below because TOAA are Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. Has this been done before? the Search function is screwing me over if so. ReplyFor this fight: PR MM was written to be above any entity from Marvel Ominverse, except PR Beyonder of course. 0. He was even above and beyond the writing staff . The one who shines like Gold upon the Sea of Chaos can beat Cosmic Armor Superman. " 13 years ago Pr_BeyonderRandom encounter. #9 Edited By Supreme Marvel. In the OVA Z made it clear him and masaki were experiments. 11 years ago. PR-Beyonder was implied to be more powerful than the Living Tribunal, while Mxy was depowered by the Spectre, and Spectre has beaten other 5D imps before. Beyonder in a curbstomp. The Overvoid could be the Beyond-Realm before PR Molecule Man created a pinpoint in the Beyond-Realm to the Earth-616 universe. The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. Follow 8649. Dr Manhattan isn't a match for Galactus, and Galactus is a mere insect to the Beyonder. Post-Retcon Beyonder vs a Full-Powered Franklin Richards. Exists alongside all of Heaven in Creation inside of the story. Forum Posts. Lol good joke about Lucifer beating CAS. Forum Posts. PR Beyonder over AM. Victory by permanent death or erasure. Also, what would you rank him as? A. 9 years ago. PR Beyonder and the Beyonders fall into that category too, and you’ve claimed the former is “fodder”. And the beyonders are destroying the entire Multiverse with no opposition,so they have no equal either. @Pr_Beyonder: uncle ben is a boss the LT qoutes him in all honesty he does loose every round except possibly 1 and 5 also hank prime would have to be pressing way more than 1. The Beyonder is an infamous member of the Beyonder race. 3 years ago. The Demon of Elru. 4 years ago. Alien X is free of any indecisiveness, and both are bloodlusted. 0. So who wins this epic clash to end all clashes? Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Thanos w/ Infinity Gauntlet. Followers. LT did not get involved in the Beyonder/Owen fight, because he knew he was outmatched, and Owen was the multiverse's only hope. Edit: Oh yea, pretty sure that Oblivion is the one that. PR Beyonder was the most powerful entity sans TOAA in the marvel multiverse for a time, he was pretty much able to do whatever the hell he wanted, telling The Living Tribunal to fuck off included. Morals off, No prep, random encounter, No BFR, The battle takes place in Tokyo, Japan. Beyonder wins against Manhattan. So by definition, above any DC character except the equivalent of TOAA (The Presence. That would make LT like a germ/bug in comparison to PR-Beyonder. 6th. Thanos (HOTU) Very debatable. Not everything needs to have the uni/multi/omniverse on the line. However PR Beyonder has more power than basically all of existence and attacks that destroyed multiverses were nothing to him. Although the Beyonder was retconned to a Cosmic Cube, he was retconned again into an Inhuman-Mutant, thus he lacks the feats. The guy could probably trick PR Beyonder into. where an argument can be made for either CAS or PR Beyonder. You can say PR Byonder is more powerful then LT (M), Phoenix Force…hell even Phoenix of the White Crown would probably not be a match…But Those 3 have never met each other, and have bin ranked 2nd only to TTOA. @Pr_Beyonder: We Never saw it's limits, But Aang used it to completely seal away phoenix lord Ozai's Fire bending and made it so he "could never hurt anyone ever again. Meanwhile, the Presence is said to have been created by external forces and is. You can't claim the same about Asura's. She would stalemate the strongest nigh-omnipotents like PR Beyonder, EDG, etc. No. The Ivory Kings are still not at PRB's level, and shouldn't be regarded as his equals, let alone his superiors. He is talking about TOAA, not PR Beyonder. g2_ Follow 14321. PR Beyonder was stated clearly to be omnipotent in almost every issue of Secret Wars 1 & 2, so you can't deny. ShootingNova. #23 Edited By MrDirector786. #1 quandaledingle. And the SCP verse is on par with the Dark Tower when it comes to sheer size and scale. Especially considering the only other times to my knowledge I’ve seen PR Beyonder has “struggled” in a fight was when he clashed with Molecule Man and when he admitted Classic Doctor Strange could have incapacitate him indefinitely. Wiki Points. PR Beyonder is millions of times stronger than the Marvel multiverse. The Overvoid could be the Beyond-Realm before PR Molecule Man created a pinpoint in the Beyond-Realm to the Earth-616 universe. PR Beyonder > Ivory Kings. MM solo's. Current Beyonder should be very close to PR I'd say, they've established that the current version hasn't been retconned to a Ivory King and his final feat was leaving the Marvel multiverse. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine PagesRound 1: Thanos has 1 month. @eredin12: solar system level is roughly 150 times star level if you use our sun and solar. PR Beyonder was TOAA in the beyond realm. Crom-Cruach. All are child's play compared to what Bugs could do. Because PR Beyonder was a multiverse personified, so does that mean that each of these new Beyonders are also their own Multiverse? No. Round 1: CAS vs. So I thought I'd try to level the playing field. LT was literally powerless, didn't even try to battle him. Dr. Since his feats and stuff have. PR Beyonder was implied to be another TOAA from a different multi/macroverse. PR Beyonder was stated clearly to be omnipotent in almost every issue of Secret Wars 1 & 2, so you can't deny. Further to that; Odin, Galactus and, especially Beyonder, are all. PR Beyonder. 0. Standard equipment. Nihilist. In the Presence's case, Perpetua can create and destroy multiverses, The Judges are above her and the Presence is above them both. Follow 75. Followers. Yes he is, I don't expect you to read comics to know that. The Beyonder's, on the other hand, aren't and that's what will give him the win. PRB has a lot of. Win by death, KO, incapPR beyonder's own assession puts him millions of times stronger than the multiverse. The Living Tribunal was able to stop the Infinity Gaunlet from working, while PR Molecule Man stated to be stronger than all other beings in the Multiverse, Including Abstracts, and the Living Tribunal . The Beyonder is a young member of the ancient race of multiversal engineers known as The Beyonders, and by far its most infamous and well-known one. Another statement made about. Round 3: Both team up to take on Galactus and Eternity. I hear people say HoTU Thanos = TOAA but I have my doubts, I personally think it's just a fraction of TOAA's power. Ehh closest would be PR Beyonder I guess The closest would be geb i think him and the presence when combined are absolute infinite everything. So adding that power to the PR Beyonder powered Victor vs IG and CC Thanos makes this a stomp is Dooms favor in my opinion. PR Beyonder > Celestials > Phoenix Force. ago. Silver Age Superman doesn't have universe+ feats which the Cosmic Cube Beyonder had and PR Beyonder was beyond multiverse+ level. Whats the Greater Force of Power? COSMIC? or MAGIC? you be the Judge. Best Answer. Doctor Doom can steal/absorb power from PR Beyonder, Galactus, Asgardians, Nightmare, Life Force (Reality warping from HoM) etc but couldn't defeat Onslught? That is inconsistent. His isn't from another universe. None of them have ever specifically resisted speed force speed stealing. He is bigger than the multiverse, which is infinite in size. No chance of being omnipotent. Oh so she was the woman people talked about when they say "Beyonder can't be defeated except by that girl who he. elaine ftw. Who is a better god like figure? This thread is archived. Casually Oneshotting all of dc is beyond anything pr beyonder or any beyonders have ever done. He killed Death for fun which still left LT powerless. #1 KalKent1297. PR Beyonder would blink Superman 1 million (whether gold or Kal kent) into non-existence. Knowsbleed33 says: "PR Beyonder took out a group of Celestials with ease. His will is law. 3rd. let's wait and see his actual feats. PR Beyonder was above all beings in marvel. The Beyonder: Who Wins In A Fight? By David Harth Published Sep 11, 2020 The Beyonder and Dr. Lucifer & Michael vs PR Beyonder will be a better match-up. That feat alone puts him solidly above Lucifer who's best "multiversal" feat was destroying the mirrors, which he didn't even do by himself. User. 6 years ago deactivated. Just because that occurred, does not mean Pre-Retcon Beyonder's "im ominoptent" statement holds any weight. Forum Posts. PR Beyonder had every single abstract and Living Tribunal at his knees. One on one, most people would say that PR. Why would a reality warper have any effect on a Biblical angelic being? The concept and idea of divinity, as in, coming from God, is a concept that Marvel lacks. Bait? 1 year ago. He. This is pre-retcon Beyonder. Jul 30, 2018. Lucifer WINS. Reviews: 0. Beyonder wins against Manhattan. @dami24434: cosmology expansion. Follow 7842. The Crimson King decides he's bored and decides to start trolling other verses. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space, and time to observe the never-ending battle between good and evil, serving as both an ally and enemy to Earth's greatest heroes. Forum Posts. PR Beyonder and it’s not a fight. While still a child, the older Beyonders began their grand experiment where they. 15. The art work and what not is horrible. Round 3: CAS and Myx vs PR Beyonder and Living Tribunal. PR-Beyonder was broken, but still not TOAA. Fulcrum. Some dude told me this guy was strong but i think goku can with with. Who do you think is the strongest in Marvel? Who do you think is the strongest in DC? If they fight who will win???Sure, baby 400 tonner mark LOL, also he made a weird noise just as PR Beyonder made a noise when hulk slammed him. How far does he get? R1: The Justice League (Post-Crisis) R2: Superboy Prime. #1. Hard to call in terms of power. If Doom goes at full confidence in. Destroying the metaverse, which is stated to be. Battle takes place in an infinite omniverse. Follow 2797. The beyonder can warp reality and time as well as creating a real life setting. If it's spiderman with the power of PR Beyonder then he should win. Bo88gdan. PR Beyonder is barley baseline just through making the beyond verse. PR Beyonder is comparable to at least 3 magicians combined, he stomps unbelievably hardPR Beyonder changed the entirety of the universe at his whim. The Beyonder is strong, but not exactly the strongest. And the LT he beat was undefined. He couldn't erase Death. TOAA is above all. Im suprised that PR Beyonder isnt here. The Beyonder (pre-retcon) vs The Great Darkness (dark crisis) The most powerful antagonist Marvel ever created vs the latest and greatest existential threat in. LT's powers/status was never set, hence the whole retcon deal. deactivated-5edd330f57b65. 3 years ago. So, I looked at The Beyonder's (Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely, 1-A. Who is a better god like figure? PR Beyonder, even when defeated, knew exactly what was going on and even came back to humiliate Doom and show how irrelevant his plan was. Take the hill. 1958325779 • 2 yr. 29. Random encounter. Next panel PR Beyonder moonwalks onto the scene. Perfect teamwork. The man with the blue privates exists only b/c the man from beyond allows him to. PR Beyonder > Ivory Kings. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Round 5, 6, 7 and 8: same as rounds 1, 2, 3 and 4 except that Batman is bloodlusted, he is working with Doom and Reed Richards and has 100x preparation time. He was not aware of other Beyonders and misinterpreted his personal universe as everything in existence. Gokuisthebest. While The Living Tribunal is rated 1-A (more than The Beyonder)and 616 Eternity or Multi-Eternity is rated High 1-B (same as The Beyonder). He was a way wanked character. PR-Beyonder easily, He was (literally) the multiverse outside of marvel, the beyond realm, everything was him and he was everything basically. Beyonder would just make remake everything that was destroyed. The Two fight in the beyond realm. Oh wait that would mean auto win to Marvel. Lucifer and Michael are powerhouses but so is PR Beyonder. 7 years ago. 11 years ago. 2. Not only that, but the mirrors contained nothing more than aborted universes. 801. "GL Kilowog >Odin Thor? "Perhaps not in sheer power, but in implementation. Nah, it’s generally recognised that PR Beyonder is above TOAA and the Presence. I think Beyonder wins based on feats. Beyonder was the one above all before TOAAPre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. Manhattan's league. . M. Pre Retcon Beyonder has been nearly killed before by lesser being and has been outsmarted more than once by people so far below his power level. " @Pr_Beyonder: LT could very well beat Lucifer. Composite Spidey is powerful but gets pushed aside first I’d say, even wit the powers of the Beyonder race. Follow 15044. PR Beyonder. After his creator, Jim Shooter left Marvel, writer-editor Tom DeFalco, displeased with. Dude is literally from a universe(?) that is larger than the entire marvel universe(?), and was it's sole occupant. Without the Pre-Retcon clause, Beyonder is ridiculously hosed, being outclassed by a Cosmic Cube. He is bigger than the multiverse, which is infinite in size. But tbh I think Lucifer is just a smarter fighter. Hulk tanking a hit from Beyonder is an outlier too by the way. @mazeraiii said: Beyonder solo's. There's a LOT of weird hax in Bleach, not even including Aizen. Forum Posts. When picturing PR Beyonder's power I always use this analogy: Imagine the PR Amalgan Brothers, you know, the guys that made LT and Specter look like ants. @laflux said: MOM. Ite. No, they can't adapt to. "TOAA & The Presence play the same respective roles in DC and Marvel. for PR, i'm more in line with thinking it's going to be a fight you can't imagine. Even though Pr Beyonder was published/written by Marvel he was not meant to be a Marvel entity, but an entity outside of the Marvel Actuality - in essence his own Actuality. Alien X (Ben 10) vs pre retcon Beyonder. "You'll notice every cosmic being/entity in there, from the LT to Eternity. living tribunal could not do a damn thing 12 years ago. Actually PR Beyonder was TOAA of his own actuality (according to Stan Lee), the purpose of his original existence was to. All are at maximum power fight is to the death or ko. Followers. Also you asked who in Marvel is more powerful than PR Beyonder, so there's no. Unless its stated Some ware that PR Beyonder is TTOA or has met and defeated (even if its of panel) True LT or Primal Force. PR Beyonder was TOAA before TOAA was established, there was no character of TOAA before or at the time of Secret Wars 1 & 2. It was obvious there that the Pre-Retcon Beyonder would absolutely ra-pe a 100% Galactus. Perpetua, due to far surperior feats. Posts. It has been shown that in Guardians of The Galaxy (1990) #49-50 that The Living Tribunal has judgement over the Beyonder, the same Beyonder people consider to be the PR Beyonder (PR = Pre-Retconned) which iirc takes place around the same time in Fantastic Four (1961) #319 or at the very least has similar continuity. Forum Posts. He changed the match from ssj2 Goku vs Jin Mori to Sai vs Beyonder lol. Follow 8935. edit2: One big gotcha I should mention. How does Protege beat PR Beyonder? Protege vs Beyonder. 0. Having incubated within a specialized "womb-space" created by his progenitors for an unknown amount of time, the Beyonder eventually became aware. buster wise, and low level reality warper, that stuffPR Beyonder feats, Chuck Norris facts, Woody Wood Pecker whatevers. Besides when PR Beyonder and PR Molecular Man fought , we know MM was Beyonder's only friend. TOAA probably isn't more powerful than suggsverse characters. Actually i think you have a misconception of the timelines buddy that or your hating on the Marquis of death. Well, uh. What we know about Mark Miller's Marvel 1985 is that he. What was he, and why was he so powerful? All i know about. %Pr "this is not pre-con beyonder, it's cosmic cube being beyonder and a full power PF would be white crown who both these people can't beat 14 years ago. IMO, PR Beyonder can outdo anything Bill can do and more. He was stated to be millions of times more powerful than the entire marvel multiverse. ultimatewarrior123. Magic, on the other hand, is stuff you can’t do with science, it’s the realm of basically gods in Fate. Like, guys, just focus on like a planetary thing or even a system wide thing. Round 3 and 4: Same as round 1 and 2 without Infinity Gaunlet or Heart of the Universe. Holo-Man • 3 yr. Pr beyonder blinks away a nigh omni that treat beings that treat beings that treat beings that are multiversal++ level like an outright folder right? She basically controls the plot of her verse. Yes: PR beyonder, PR molecule man, toaa, toba, toba. PF wont last 1 minute in the fight. I think you could argue rather convincingly that he's the 2nd moat powerful character in all of fiction, only behind TOAA. Living Tribunal. The Molecule Man and Galactus that Spider-Man defeated with the powers. The Beyonder First Appeared In 'Secret Wars'. While secret wars came out in 1984 it extended to 1985 which i believe was when Molecule man made his secret wars appearance. PR Beyonder was TOAA before TOAA was ever a thought. Wiki Points. Forums. Basically this. PR Beyonder is way beyond than Thanos with IG. Pre-Rectonned Beyonder, the most powerful multiverse Cosmic Being Marvel has ever created. 13 years ago. This is a toss up. The Beyonder was literally the most powerful entity in the Marvel universe before he was retconned. 8 years ago. The PR Beyonder saw the multiverse as a. LocatiNew Comics. Business, Economics, and Finance. " Current as in the old man with parkinson's. However, that scan of her being able to have an effect on PR Beyonder was pretty badass. And,DC cosmology is encompassed by the story of Superman CAS embodies. doomsday49. The Beyonder was literally the most powerful entity in the Marvel universe before he was retconned. K. LT-beating omnipotent. A. I think you could argue rather convincingly that he's the 2nd moat powerful character in all of fiction, only behind TOAA. Team 1 wins.