The Beyonder stomps. Beyonder if what I hear of Gan/Crimson King is true (and. He is the central antagonist of the Battleworld arc in Season 4: Secret Wars. plus isnt white phoenix at lt level i hear that it is. When talking Beyonder, We're referring to a dude whose power level was measured as "quintillions" of times greater than everything in the multiverse combined, and laughed off a. 7 years ago. Round 1: Eternity: Beyonder stomps. 11. Something like "Weakest DC Villain that could beat Pre-Retcon Beyonder" would be fine though. Business, Economics, and Finance. High Hyperverse level (The Beyonder is an infinite dimensional being. Thanos HOTU has a fraction of the power of the One-Above-All, the most powerful being of both the Marvel and DC Universes. See: Secret Wars In order to satisfy his feeling, Beyonder began a experiment where he would take many heroes and villains of Earth and put them to a test to better understand the concept of good, evil and desire. meaning that the AR is probably at the level of or maybe even above the true power of DC. 9. Pre-ret beyonder was collapsing parallel dimensions as a byproduct of deep conflicting thought, Thanos could probably achieve this seeing how he wiped the universe clean but Beyonder just seems. g. This is way larger than the entire Marvel verse and DC verse. Pre Retcon Beyonder has been nearly killed before by lesser being and has been outsmarted more than once by people so far below his power level. Yes I'am aware of that but you to remeber that with the Inhuman Beyonder was that this retcon took him back to his Pre-Retcon roots and also everything Pre-Retcon Beyonder did is still cannon to. He's just on a whole nother level from GEB. Apparently due to the latest post about Doom people are claiming some Bleach characters like Aizen can beat The God Emperor. Pre-retcon Molecule Man. #5. Sppople. 0. the respect thread for Pre-Retcon Beyonder. The level is set when connecting that Super Power to a character. Femto would oneshot 100% of Marvel not even Pre-Retcon Beyonder can stop this monster, you have to be as powerful as Lucifer Morningstar to have a chance of fighting Femto but even then i would. Rune King Thor cant beat a fully fed. 5 years ago. There are levels of overpowered. show 3 replies . I also added scans and references. Pre- Retcon Beyonder would not be that much powerful if he came now. Endless Mike. #36. PR Beyonder was somehow tricked by dr doom and lost his power which is dumb tbh. Akasha only has 6d universes on itself, that's not omnipotence. :The mage got a rest time of 1 day between the fights. Pre-Retcon Beyonder Thread starter shrike2003; Start date May 26, 2006; Who rapes whom? The Spectre, at his max, is basically GOD!!. The more you use dimensional levels as a way to mean the character wins only makes them lose because the higher the dimensional level doesnt mean anything lmao. CryptoI would think that a Level 100 character would be something like the pre-retcon version of The Beyonder from Marvel Comics. You see, the thing is that Pre Retcon Beyonder is Secret Wars Beyonder, so it’s not completely incorrect in a away, but all these events are taking after the retcon, if you get what I mean. Beyonder, Pre-Retcon or Post-Retcon with minimum effort. MCU God of stories Loki vs Pre Retcon Beyonder. Anti-monitor was multiversal, Beyonder was hundreds and hundreds of times more powerful than the multiverse and is the poster boy for omnipotence (even though he's nigh omnipotent). This fifth dimensionl counted. Power-level wise, the Beyonder is so far 'beyond' the Anti-Monitor it's not even funny. There is no way to square all of the things The Beyonder could do pre-retcon with the origin they assigned to him post-retcon, so you kind of need to make a distinction between the. ago. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate the Class. deactivated-63c1a72900876. :Wiki. This is Post Retcon Beyonder. ago. R1 - Beyonder godstomps effortlessly, he's millions of times more powerful than the Marvel multiverse, which is infinitely bigger than Dragon Ball's multiverse. Super Power Score and Level. The Beyonder is a cosmic being of immense power, often labelled as omnipotent during the issues of Secret Wars, and much stronger than all the other cosmic entities. The rest of the rounds Marvel is pretty dominant, maybe they could do something in the final round. Phoenix Taaia 26. And yeah he stomps. Strange, Sorcerer Supreme 10: The In-Betweener. 10 years ago. The Beyonder being millions of times the power of the Multiverse was countered by himself twicesaying Eternity and The Phoenix Force had the power to destroy him. 0. #1 Edited By XiiX. Sensing that the Beyonder is a power beyond the multiverse itself and is capable of granting any wishes,. Pre-Retcon Beyonder can resurrect the Dead and can give whoever Power they never once had. Beyonder has way more hax, the Glory is literally non-sentient, and Beyonder has an extreme AP advantage, seeing as the Glory is only possibly baseline High 1-B, and Beyonder is well over 10,000,000 times more powerful than almost every High 1-B in Marvel. Quantu. So, it is the power of pre-retcon Beyonder. He. The Crimson King Edit: Different sizes of infinity. Well technically Dr. The first pre-retcon Beyonder dies. Full123. 2. Nov 6, 2017. - featherin vs Lamdadelta (not an actual battle, featherin smashed/trashed Lamda with no actual effort) 3. Pre-retcon, he's a multiversal reality warper and does things like tear the multiverse up on accident . The Beyonders have nothing to do with Pre Retcon Beyonder. Rick Sanchez (Rick and Morty) Respect Rick Sanchez (Rick and Morty). Just when you open it up to all of fiction it doesn't create a very fun discussion, and if the only goal is to name characters that can beat him then that kind of creates a boring thread of people just naming off every character of a given power level. Nothing can come close to infinite creation and/or destruction. Follow 4132. 0. 3 years ago deactivated-5f5be9e305dddThe Beyonder represents a power beyond all of them. Queen Of Never 25. PR Beyonder takes it 10/10. -One. If Living Tribunal is infinite multiversal, Beyonder far transcends him, how are both infinite universal unless one is logically on a higher level of power. Dormamu Eternity Power 27. There's a difference. #2 Edited By Hulkman123. In terms of power levels, this list is pretty accurate though. Also CAS safe stomps round 4, 7 and probably round 10 as well. His presence alone destroyed infinite universes. Round 1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Pre-Retcon Superman. - Neither. As a result, for his experiment, he. Nope that’s pre-retcon not post retcon. Is Pre-Retcon Beyonder more powerful than The One Above All? 57 results 1 2 #1 Edited By firewrkninja on TOAA's page it says that he is the most powerful being in the marvel multiverse. I don't know the specifics of how post-retcon Beyonder was nerfed, but the other two rounds are stomps in favor of Beyonder. Pre-Retcon Beyonder for the win, its just that one panel's narration about being billions or was it millions of times more powerful then all the multiverse combined. Mxyzptlk. During Fantastic Four #319, the Beyonder was retconned into being an incomplete Cosmic Cube, with the Molecule Man as his other half. Beyonder is a million times larger than an Infinite Dimensional Multiverse, the difference between him and an Omniverse is far greater than the one between MM. Forum Posts. 2. Also the Beyonder is whatever he decides to be. Fight takes place in an empty multiverse. @slacker the hacker said: "@Mackeja said: "Pre-retcon spite. 1,102. People place the cosmic entities on Lucifers level sometimes lmao. . Pre-Retcon Beyonder is infinitely stronger than the entire Marvel Multiverse, Phoenix Force is only the sum of all life in the multiverse (although never ever depicted anywhere near this level). All the previous ones have been way too lopsided or at power levels lower than this (discounting preretcon beyonder and MM's clash) Cyclops really disappointed though. ] Planet Buster Tier: Able to destroy a planet [E. Win by destroying or sealing opponent. #13 AgentofChaos1. Team 1 wins. Beyonder is kicked away. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine PagesPre Retcon Beyonder feats Please read these scans before you vote. Wich by the way, Beyonder, would just make a tought to undo them all. Round 2 : Post Retcon. Battle. The level is set when. 5 years. Then there is Inhuman/Mutant beyonder who had nothing to do with The beyonders. But it wont be easy by no means. Based on Owen's estimation of Beyonder's power levels. Earth 691 Beyonder. Lucifer Morningstar (with the Demiurgic Dunamis): Lucifer Morningstar traveling to Marvel multiverse towards know more about it and just traveling to events of. Round 1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder wins, while I think he is not. It is unclear whether his power under this retcon is greater of lesser than the Cosmic Cube version of the Beyonder, or if it is even at the level of Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Originally Beyonder was a mysterious cosmic entity from outside the multiverse who was more powerful than Galactus, The Celestials, and the entire Cosmic Compass. They don’t have a weak point in their past to travel to. The difference is that the first Beyonder was presented as having a radically different backstory and widely divergent level of power to how he was presented before. 2. Sure he can beat the post-retcon Beyonder. Beyonder, very easily. There are other impressive feats to show, but they are. •Beyonder is infinitely bigger than the whole multiverse [which has infinite number of universe in it] •Beyonder is infinitely powerful than all of multiverse combined. 3. That said, Beyonder loses anyway otherwise and badly (really badly) mainly because Lucifer crushes the BeyondRealm and can survive all of Beyonder's max feat and max implied level of power. 8: Hulk /w The One Below All. Follow 4533. As wanky as it sounds, you've pitted an omnipotent+ being against an omnipotent being. • 1 year ago. R1: Lucifer wins Mid-difficulty R2: Pre-recton beyonders wins high difficulty. And the SCP verse is on par with the Dark Tower when it comes to sheer size and scale. jwwprod. Archie Sonic vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder 62 results; 1; 2; pr0d1gy. Basanos who are nothing more than a mimcry of Destiny's book could see and create infinite possibilities just to kill Lucifer. Follow 21460. Just checked, you're right, my bad. While The Living Tribunal is rated 1-A (more than The Beyonder)and 616 Eternity or Multi-Eternity is rated High 1-B (same as The Beyonder). 3. Just because it's the pre-retcon Beyonder, it doesn't mean his opponents are at the power level they were in pre-retcon days. Round 4 same as round 3 the retcon happened for a reason. 10 years ago. Wiki Points. Forum Posts. Super Power Score and Level. Pre-Retcon Molecule man can't stop, and even scratch Pre-retcon Beyonder. God Emperor Doom has no feats that matter at this level, Pre-retcon Beyonder turns him into a toilet. I see, so Gilgamesh is indeed powerful, but still difficult to tier consistently with all those different statements / showings. GEB=Anti Pressence. Wich when stoped, created SCP-999. 9. VS. Aka and Lorkhan influenced and limited all Et'Ada with their power. Beyonder was affecting the entire Marvel multiverse or omniverse, or something like that, all at once. Then we will talk. The 2nd Existential Seed said: Beyonder is either one of two things: Millions times stronger then Eternity, or millions times more powerful than LT + ( Even though I believe the first ) . We can only scale from their established power levels as they were in 1985, not after the retcon took place. Beyonder - vs - Beyonder # 21 K. Mutant Inhuman Beyonder. Shaper of Worlds and every other variation of the Cosmic Cubes are consistently stated in handbooks to have that level of power. Imagion all he powers in the Marvel Multiverse (which is infinite), not just the Multiverse but also every being in it, and emptyness (which is also infinite) beyond it (blank pages) Even Stan Lee stated in an interview in the 80s, that Beyonder was supose to represent the power the writers had. Pre-Retcon Beyonder can teleport and undo. 7. Hajun via feats and implied power. They know that he is capable of ending them with naught but a thought, and that engenders a feeling in them they've never known- fear. It’s hard to grasp at this level, but I believe the Beyonder has far greater on screen feats, such as his battle with Molecule Man. @kingkronos said: @Pwok21 said:. Pre-Retcon Beyonders was described to be like a child compared to the Beyonders we are seeing now. We already saw alive Gil in the Babylonia arc, he shows the same power level. At this power level he was still able to affect things across the universe, across dimension, and across time, which I think puts him far above Sentry. #28 ovy7. The Beyonder clearly held Scathan's power in deep respect. High-End Composite Time Lords and High-End Interpretation Downstreamers 3. Pre Retcon Beyonder would be accidentally retconned once more. This fight takes place in a neutral space and either party wants to kill the other. The One Above All, as per the name is above all. Everybody bows down to Pre-retcon Beyonder. Pre-Retcon Beyonder probably is more powerful than current Sky-father Hercules and therefore can/should win. super strength is not worth much in such a fight. Follow 379. The level is set when connecting that Super Power to a character. ProfessorRespect. Pre-Retcon Beyonder probably is more powerful than current Sky-father Hercules and therefore can/should win. Beyonder is just Metaverse level or Low Metaverse. Only way Parayla wins is of. 7: Old Lord Thanos. "For sake of argument, let's assume that a normal value is 1. 1st Retcon - Beyonder was a cosmic cube who dreamed everything (so SW & SW II did not happen) . CitizenSentry. But, that was in regard to a. I really can't be asked to go. Specificity of the Beyonder is that everything he thinks is real, and. GhostRavage. In dc put in Bat Mite and Superman prime the. the_doctor. Nope. I think pre-retcon Beyonder may take it. Wiki Points. Galactus Fused 23. He is infinitely greater than everything in existance combined. Molecule Man can battle Beyonder. Tdk banished the Great Darkness from Barbatos, and took over the Dark multiverse, Barbatos is just a small avatar of the Great Darkness. There it, the respect thread for Pre-Retcon Beyonder. 5 years ago. He'd be incredibly more versetile with his approach in the fight. 1st Retconned Beyonder < Cosmic Cube. Doom get the drop on him and take his power. Doom get the drop on him and take his power. 10 years ago. #11. Especially if they all team up on him. Attack Potency: Varies (His power level varies heavily depending on his mental and emotional state, as well as the mental blocks he places upon his own mind - without even knowing) from Human level (Is an ordinary human sometimes, but his statistics tend to go up and down) to High Hyperverse level (Comparable to the Beyonder, being, depending. No prep everyone is at peak level all blood lusted to the death fight takes place in space. Fixes Beyonder's Multiverse-Wide Destruction. Yes, the Ivory Kings are retcon back inspirations to Pre Retcon Beyonder, but they are merely inspirations. Pre-Retcon Beyonder and LT would be about the same power level, imo. -Everything in bleach. I think he wins this. "True Darkseid" or whatever you want to call him was threatening the muliverse due to the nature of his fall - not personal power. Each Super Power also has 3 levels (SPL). A few pages leter Beyonder comes back kills Doom and starts curb stomping everyone including wrecking the mutli verse and breaking apart countless realities That's what Pre Retcon Beyonder is A. This was a level of power on par with the Universe itself. God’s best feat is him creating the concept of light with a single command, while Beyonder has crazy other things that are more impressive. Not to mention Beyonder detailing Doc Strange's win con over him. The level is set when connecting that Super Power to a character. SCP-682's adaptive powers are seriously NLF-prone. Although marvel uses numbers to calculate; it's as if he's Alef Null x Billion beyond infinity that already exist, which Tribunal and many others have already transcended. Didn't Comic God of Stories affected Pre-Retcon Beyonder? 7 days ago. CryptoBrainiac, the highest level intellect in all of DC and the only villain to go out into the Source to find more information how things really are, says Myxzptlk's power of Imagination is infinite. Beyonder - vs - Beyonder # 20. No prep and no knowledge. @slacker the hacker said: "@Mackeja said: "Pre-retcon spite. Beyonder Pre-Retcon was a REALM. Beyonder is 1,000,000-2,000,000 times more powerful than an Infinitely Layered Multiverse based on the On-Panel direct estimate. :The mage can't use any scrying abilitys between the fights to study his opponents except against the Doctor. rest. The beyonder = The One above all. Wiki Points. 1. Orphic Zeus. Mismatch, this version of Beyonder is TOAA level. here are the rules. Beyonder squashes him like a bug. The Pre Rectcon Beyonder is basically a galaxy spanning Pamela Geller, Richard Dawkins and Salman Rushdie rolled into one universal power, the Beyonder has the power to stomp on the Quran or Koran. May 26, 2023. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate the Class. Stronger than all other beings in the Multiverse, Including Abstracts. Creshosk. Because there is no "pre-retcon" Beyonder in Marvel canon -- that is nothing more than a made-up battleboard term. And the modern US military can easily beat Homelander, but a few thousand guys are dying. Anti-monitor was multiversal, Beyonder was hundreds and hundreds of times more powerful than the multiverse and is the poster boy for omnipotence (even though he's nigh omnipotent). Thanos here probably has more power but Beyonder might win off of a technicality. 8: Hulk /w The One Below All. Lucifer. @dami24434: cosmology expansion. Probably loses rds 5 and 8. Follow. 3: Pre-retcon Beyonder 4: Post-retcon Beyonders. @yamiyodare: Living Tribunal has held 2. Jan 29, 2017. Surface Wiper Tier: Able to destroy the surface of a planet or wipe out all life on a world [E. Pre Retcon Beyonder vs Adaption. Why does the Beyonder look so cheesy. His power level is limited to Marvels definition of omnipotence and it's hierarchy which currrently includes deities like the One Above All. As we can recall he was retconned, meaning most of his feats did not occur. Origin: Marvel Comics. Pre-ret beyonder was collapsing parallel dimensions as a byproduct of deep conflicting thought, Thanos could probably achieve this seeing how he wiped the universe clean but Beyonder just seems. Cosmic Armor Superman is two infinities greater than a multiverse whilst Beyonder is only a million times greater than a Multiverse that does not even expand. But you are right about Elder God Demonbane being created just to be all powerful, Pre-Retcon Beyonder is kind of the same he was created to be TOAA of another multiverse outside of the Marvel. who universe. Don't think God Thing's H4X compares. Marvel has it's entire cosmology absolutely filthy with things with a canonical power level of "infinite". 4. it would be mostly stalemate. Pre Retcon Beyonder gets wrecked hard lol. DC team : The Darkest Knight, Perpetua and Doctor Manhattan. They literally referenced him and said that he was just a child. Multi-Oblivion 22. Additional comment actions. The Beyonder beat them rather easily - Scan 1, Scan 2, Scan 3,. and to give Beyonder a curiosity, a reason to visit Earth in SWII. CryptoWeaknesses. 2. He is a cosmic cube which is an Omni-dimensional object that can expand infinitely but that is only a limited part of him because he limits himself. Lucifer deletes LT, PRB deletes Lucy then recreates LT. s The whole Kryptonian , Earth heroes, Justic League , Avengers, Teen Titan, Olympiancan Pre-Retcon Beyonder take all of those SPeople already think Pre-Retcon Beyonder is around the One Above All (directly below, equal, or above), so this new big bad is gonna be busted in a confusing way, since a fraction of his is power. Each Super Power also has 3 levels (SPL). Pre retcon beyonder one shots all. His book alone has all. However, he can scale to characters with immeasurable speed via statements. To believe that all infinite multiversals are equal is to believe LT would "stalemate" the likes of Time Eater Lavos and Zeedmilleniummon. Jul 30, 2018. Every hero on earth was totally useless against a flawed celestial patched together from bits and pieces of long dead ones. 5. Well seeing how ive been told i need to tone down the Superman stuff. She/Her. on TOAA's page it says that he is the most powerful being in the marvel multiverse. Each Super Power also has 3 levels (SPL). Gender: Inapplicable (As the character stated, "he" was made of energy. NOTHING. Tiering System: High 1-B | 1-A Name:' The. You can't be above the power of the wrtiers. Based on Owen's estimation of Beyonder's power levels. Let's put it this way. The time lords are at their best. That one time Phoenix Force making Pre Retcon Beyonder struggle: is this a testament to her power?. 2. Still, Pre-retcon Beyonder stomps here. It took 3 of the Beyonders to take down the same LT. Bat Manhattan has all his current power as of the last issue from DC Comics. 0. 7: Old Lord Thanos. Indeed. Forum Posts. George and Jessica vs Gaap and Ronove. Preretcon Beyonder wins. Beyonder: Biography: The man, the myth, the legend. Powers and Stats. Also CAS safe stomps round 4, 7 and probably round 10 as well. A man as powerful as he is chronically insecure character, Owen Reece has the power to control all matter and energy. MrStealYoSweetroll • 2 yr. 3: Pre-retcon Beyonder 4: Post-retcon Beyonders. There is nothing he can do to hurt him while Beyonder can snap his finger and destroy Flash and the universe. TheChoosenMewtwo • 10 mo. Post retcon, he is about as powerful as a cosmic cube. ) along with the Great Houses of Gallifrey (A. Alot of people seem to have hard time giving HOM Wanda her due. Apr 8, 2018. Origin: Marvel Comics. But seeing hat The Pre Retcon Beyonder was basically on the Living Tribunal's level. Kuuko273. cweaver • 7 yr. On page, on screen, on panel feats. Forum Posts. Scathan has decided he no longer "Approves" of the beyonders exsistance. Pre-Retcon Beyonder v. That's all there is to it. Molecule Man, who at the time of the Pre-Retcon Beyonder was the second most powerful being EVER, let off a blast, point blank in the Beyonder's face that was said to be powerful enough to destroy THOUSANDS of dimensions, it was shrugged off by the Beyonder. He is superior to LT, but to what degree is unknown. Making the Molecule Man a bomb created by said Beyonders for each reality. Beyonder preretcon upgrade to 1A. But it wont be easy by no means. Beyonder is either: A. Dr. But seeing hat The Pre Retcon Beyonder was basically on the Living Tribunal's level.